– [Voiceover] Prairie Yard
and Garden is a production of the University
of Minnesota Morris in cooperation with
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shalomhill.org. – Gardening is an
enjoyable activity that we love to
share with others. Our individualism is displayed
through the artistic ability we use in colors,
patterns, and form to create our unique gardens. Rarely does the public
get to see our work. Join me on Prairie
Yard and Garden as we look at a private
garden in a public place. (upbeat piano music) Each of us has
those unique gardens that we’d love to
share with the public, but so many times it’s
a very private backyard that the public
never gets to see, but today we found Bruce Wenner who has a very public garden
next to a bike pathway. As you put your garden together, what did you have in mind
here in this public trail? – Well, we had, like you said,
a lot of people were going by and we wanted a little bit
of privacy for our house, so we decided it’d
be nice if we could put something that
was natural in place, and so we just started
growing the Arborvitae. The Arborvitae have been
doing really well here and every year I kind of put
stuff in between the Arborvitae and last year I had
the sunflowers and
they got really huge. I mean they were like
almost 12 feet tall. – [Larry] Wow. – [Bruce] So when the
kids would come by, the little kids in the
strollers and stuff, they’d stand underneath these
big sunflowers and they’d go, “Wow, mom, look at this!” and they were like
dwarfed compared to the size of the plants and that
was, it’s always exciting, so every year I kind of
change it up a little bit. My wife and I, we work
on changing things up. This year we have
the Cannons growing. – [Larry] What other things
have you done along the walkway to give yourself
a little privacy? – [Bruce] Well, this year
I was working on a fence. I have a fence where at
the end of the garage and then in between the
garage and the shed, where I usually keep my
wheelbarrows and stuff, in between the shed
and the garage, and I have a canoe I
keep back there and, and people could
see all this junk and I didn’t want to have it
distract from other things. So I decided to build a fence, but I didn’t want
an ordinary fence. I wanted something
that would look nice and have some interesting
features in it that you wouldn’t
see everywhere else. I have a gazebo that
I’ve, not really a gazebo, it’s kinda like a
cascading gazebo that I built in the back with
kind of an Oriental flair, and so I wanted to
build a fence that had similar characteristics,
kind of an Oriental flair with some different
things in it and I was thinking about in the
winter how bleak it gets and how it’d be nice if we
had something that has some color to it, and so I thought, “Well, why don’t
we put up a fence “and put in some glass blocks?” and I started researching
glass blocks online and I found that you could buy
these colored glass blocks, but it came out pretty good. I put the fence together. It’s all tongue and groove
and mortise and tenon, so it’s all kind of interlocking
with no nuts or bolts. – [Larry] What did
you make the material? – [Bruce] I used cedar. I sealed the cedar
and then painted it with a lacquer-base
of outdoor paint. I’m hoping that it will
hold up for a long time. My wife and I, we wanted
something that would match our garage and our
house, and so we thought we should probably go with
the same color scheme. – [Larry] Well, I’ve
been impressed with it. I like them little
colored blocks up there. It just adds a
touch to the fence that we normally would not see. Well, let’s take a little
stroll down your pathway here and see what other things
you’ve done to make your unique private
garden very public. (upbeat piano music) Well, Bruce, I bet
when people walk past this part of your
garden, they just go, “Wow, what a beautiful sight!” – Yes, we’ve noticed that also. I mean, they come around
the corner and they, they don’t expect
this to be back here, at least those who haven’t
been this way before and so they stop and they look. We get a lot of compliments
about it in there. People are impressed
and they want to know how long we’ve been working
at it and what we’ve done and different things
that we’ve put into it. It’s always fun to stop
and take some time to show the public, different people,
what’s going on back here, and we’ve used a lot
of different things. It used to be a
vegetable garden. My wife and my stepdaughter,
Angie, they got a bunch of trees one year
from the school department and decided, “Well, we’ll
put them in the garden.” and so we put them in the
garden and then we decided we didn’t want to try to
grow vegetables anymore and we had all these rocks
and my wife decided that she wanted to put some
paths through the garden, and so then she made the
paths out and then I decided I wanted to fill in all the
blank spaces with some Hostas and other plants, and I
always liked trees and I like tree kind of products and
stuff like stumps, old stumps and hollowed out cavities
and stuff and so I, I would bring them home
and I would incorporate it, them into the garden setting. They added a different
type of, more of a natural, softer look, in my opinion. – [Larry] Sure. – It’s been fun, it’s been fun. I think some of the ideas
I had haven’t always worked so great, and then some
of them worked really, they worked out
better than what I thought they would work out. – [Larry] Well, I notice
this big stump on the end down there with the Impatiens. That’s just perfect
in that corner. – [Bruce] Actually,
it’s a Dogwood tree that got hit by lightening
over by Long Prairie, and a gentleman, I asked
him if I could have that or buy that from him
and he said, “Sure.” I gave him ten dollars,
and he was nice enough to bring it all the way to
my house and drop it off and so I filled it up with
black dirt and planted it and each year we put a little
something different in it because it wouldn’t winter
over very well for a perennial, so we put an annual
in it every year. – [Larry] Well, and that
red just kind of stands out even though it’s in the shade. – [Bruce] Yes, it
does, I was impressed. I wasn’t sure the red would
be a good color back here. In the past, I’ve
used the purples and
the whites and stuff, and this year we didn’t
do a lot of annuals, we just did a few annuals,
and it turned out just fine. – [Larry] What about a
couple of these other stumps I see along the line here? – [Bruce] Well, they are
gifts from Lake Agnes, which is right down
there by City Park. They were floating in the
water and so I decided I’d walk down there with my
wagon, put them in my wagon, bring them home, and I’d
place them in the garden, and they look really, I think
they look neat in the garden. It’s fun to see a
chipmunk on top of a log or a squirrel on top of
a log eating something, or the birds perched
on top of the logs. You get a different look to
it, it’s not all just plants, there’s some other things in
there that are more natural, and they were cheap, too. It didn’t cost anything, so that’s even the
best part about it. You can bring in
interesting things and it doesn’t have to cost
you a whole lot of money. – [Larry] Well, I’m curious. I notice we have black
walnut trees above us here and everybody is always
so concerned about the growing plants
under black walnuts, but do, Hostas seem to do well. – [Bruce] Yes, the
Hostas have done well. One of the things that I’ve
done to help kind of buffer some of the poison that the
walnuts emit through the ground, the roots kind of emit
a poison that kills off a lot of different
types of plants, is I tend to amend
the soil a lot, I add a lot of mulch to
it and then I also like to add other, other
ingredients into that soil that kinda help offset
some of the poison and also the nitrogens draw. Because whenever you have
a lot of trees in an area, they pull a lot of the
nutrients out of the ground, so if you’re not
amending that soil and adding different
things to it, pretty soon your
plants get real spindly and they get really
kind of tired-looking, and that’s worked for me. I’ve had different types of
perennials that I’ve had in here before I knew about the
poison from the walnut trees and they died on me,
and I’m thinking, “Well, why did they die?” They were doing so well
and all of a sudden they just kind of
fell over and died. – [Larry] Uh-huh.
– [Bruce] I mean, it’s part of gardening. You learn as things grow
and as the time goes by, you find out what works,
what doesn’t work, and sometimes
things work one year and then they won’t
work the next year, depending upon the
climate as well, too. – [Larry] I see you have
some wandering paths here. Is there any unique
design that was created? – [Bruce] My wife,
she laid out the paths and she wanted to kind of
break it up a little bit and to allow people to
kind of meander around so that it wouldn’t
be a straight line, to be more of a natural, kind
of a nature-type setting, where nothing’s really perfect. I mean, everything’s a little
bit off and a little bit askew and the path is just that, too. The rocks add a natural look
to it and I like rocks myself because you don’t
have to paint them, you don’t have to do
anything with them, and once you put them
there, they’re there, and it adds different
colors to the garden and different textures. – Well, Bruce, I see the path
takes a little left turn. What’s on the other side? – Well, let’s go over
there and look, Larry. (upbeat piano music) – Well, Bruce, I see we
got a wishing well here. Give me a little
background on this. – [Bruce] Well, when we
first started gardening, my wife and I, we wanted
to do kind of formal beds with a lot of different
bricks and, well, it really wasn’t working very well
with the rock that we had and so we decided to take the
brick, and I decided I wanted to stack them up but the bricks,
all had a lip on the back of them that kind
of interlocked, so I
had to cut that off with a saw and I cut it off and
then I had an old dog kennel when I had my dog and I
didn’t want to throw the wood away so I decided I should
build a wishing well and put it inside this
here circular thing, and anyway, it turned
out pretty nice. We were pretty pleased with it. Then I had that old fence
from over by the garden and I didn’t want to
throw that wood away, so I thought I’ll cut it up
and make bird houses out of it, and now I’ve got a lot of
Wrens that are living in it, the Tree Swallows live in it, the Bluebirds come
by and live in them, and so it’s always
pleasant to see the birds making use
of those things. – [Larry] Well, it’s a
very unique design and did you find a pattern or
is it all in your head? – [Bruce] It just all, just
kind of materialized in my head. I knew kind of what
I wanted in a way, and then I decided I needed
to have light come through and I needed also
to have the water to be able to come
through to water the bed. If it was a solid roof, the
water couldn’t get to the plants and I didn’t want to
have to be out here watering all the time
to offset that, so. – [Larry] Well, what a
great concept, wonderful. We got Hostas here, right? You must be a Hosta fan. – [Bruce] I am a Hosta fan. As you can see, it’s
almost all shade back here all day long, and because
of the shade and because of the fact that the Hostas,
the leaves are so beautiful, I find them really
beautiful and unique. Different colors,
different shapes, different sizes and stuff. Well, anyway I decided
I wanted to do Hostas. I wanted it to all kind
of fill in and to be colorful during
the growing season. I have some favorite here. The Aureomarginata Montana
is like one of my favorite. It grows really large. It’s not that big yet, but
it’s getting bigger every year. When I first bought the
plant, I just bought one plant and I separated it into just
one little, one little twig and so it’s been about
four years now, five years, and the plant’s
starting to materialize and starting to
look rather nice. – [Larry] Have you
had any slug problems or anything else occurring? – [Bruce] I have
had a slug problem. I think everybody who has Hostas and stuff has a slug problem. I don’t use any
pesticides or chemicals. I’ve asked about them,
I’ve experimented with them a little bit, but I don’t
want to use that in this area. So what I’ve done instead
is I get out here at night with my flashlight and
then a little plastic bag, and I’ll shine my flashlight
and I’ll walk around, and I’ll pick them off
because they’re right on top. But that’s how I
get rid of my slugs. If I come out here
like during the week, two or three times during the
week, and pick off the slugs, it really makes
a big difference, especially first in the year. Because if you let that
slug live early on, he’s gonna lay eggs, they’re
gonna produce little ones, and pretty soon
you’ve got a problem. – [Larry] Well, I see you have
some Astilbes in here also. I imagine that really brightens
the garden in early summer? – [Bruce] It does. Astilbes are kind of one
of my favorite because it really adds a lot of
different colors back here. I’ve got the red ones and the
white ones and the purple ones and there’s some fuchsia
ones, they’re just, and they’re really vibrant,
the colors are really vibrant, and it really just lightens
things up back here with different colors,
and they’re easy to grow. They like to grow in the shade. They’re a good
companion with Hostas, and, well, they work for me. – [Larry] Yeah, and they
give you just a little structure here, a little
taller than the Hostas. – and it works out very well.
– [Bruce] Yes, they do. Mm-hmm. – [Larry] I notice that
we’ve got some Coral Bells? – [Bruce] Yes, I bought
a couple of plants and then they were
really, really bushy and I decided to split them. My wife and I, we don’t have a
great big income, so whenever I get plants if I get a chance
to propagate or to split or divide a plant I’ll
do that to just kind of stretch my dollar a little
bit more because whenever, it costs a lot to have
a garden, especially if, if you have to buy
everything full-size and, well, this way here,
you can make it work. – [Larry] Well, I notice over
here we got a little gazebo. Give me a little
background on that. – [Bruce] Well, we
had a hill here. There was a hill here
originally and there was a great big lilac bush and
so I tore out the lilac bush and that’s where this
Hosta mound came, but the hill, I never
liked to mow the hill and I wanted to kind
of do something to, so I wouldn’t have
to mow the hill, and so I decided I was gonna
make this cascading arbor or gazebo or whatever
you want to call it. I don’t know exactly
what to call it, and I wanted to
have it kind of have a little bit of
an Oriental flair. I like to work with wood
and I wanted everything to kind of be like a,
interlocking is what I really want things to have
that interlocking. I wanted it to have air
flow through it but yet, I wanted it to kind of
have openings as well so people could look through
and see different plants and I wanted the vines to be
able to grow up over the top of it and I thought, “Well,
I’m gonna go with this.” I looked online at
different ideas, and then I decided this is
what I want to do for myself and so it turned
out pretty good. It’s not exactly what I wanted, but I’m very pleased
with what I have. – [Larry] Well, you’ve got
a couple of hanging pots that really accent that walkway. – [Bruce] Yes, my
wife and I, we decided we were not gonna
buy hanging pots. We had some extra pots
left over from last year, and so we actually planted our
own hanging pots this year. We bought a few annuals
and we put them in there and they’re doing
quite well now. – [Larry] You got a big
Snowball Hydrangea there that’s doing quite well. – [Bruce] Yes, there are a
couple of Hydrangeas there. There’s a key lime Hydrangea and then there’s one
called Pinky Winky. It will turn pink
later on in the year. As it gets further into autumn, the flower will
actually turn pink, and it’s quite beautiful. – [Larry] Well, let’s walk up
the trail a little bit further and see what your beds look like as you get closer to the house. – [Bruce] Okay. (upbeat piano music) – Well, Bruce, what’s
this area here? – Well, whenever I was dividing
a Hosta and I had extra Hostas that I didn’t
have a place to put them, I decided I would put them
over here by the pine tree, and it wasn’t the most
ideal place for them, but what I’ve done is I’ve
kind of amended the soil and added a lot of composted
material in here to kind of offset the effects
of the pine tree. The other problem with it, the pine tree is always
such a big nitrogens draw, so in order to get
things to live back here, I had to do something
with the soil. I checked the pH back
here and it was a, like a 7.8 underneath the
pine tree, which is surprising because you would think
it would be acidic, but it isn’t, it’s
very alkaline. I did four soil tests. I did a soil test out
in the front garden. I did a soil test out in the
garden over there by the trail, and I did a soil test
right behind me as well, and most of the soils are
about 7.3 to 7.4 to 7.6, and this was 7.8,
so this was the most alkaline area in the garden. – [Larry] Well, you talk
about adding compost. How much compost
did you put in here? – [Bruce] Well, I will
generally start out with a base compost
of about six inches, and what I’ve found
is that whenever I add about six inches of
compost, it will settle the first year to
about four inches. Then one year later,
that same six inches is down to about three inches
or less, and after two years, you’ve got about two
inches of compost left, so I like to add compost
on a regular basis wherever I notice it’s
starting to get thin. It helps to keep
the moisture in. It also keeps the weeds out. To weed something,
it’s a lot of work to go through and weed
everything all the time, so the compost is a plus. Moisture in, it decomposes,
and it adds nutrients to your soil, back
into the ground. It acts as a buffer
towards some of the acidity or the alkalinity of the soil, and it’s just been a
good thing all around. – [Larry] Well, obviously it’s
working very well for you. I mean these plants are very
healthy-looking and thriving. You got lots of
fullness to the plant and flowers on the
Hostas are blooming well. – [Bruce] Mm-hmm. – [Larry] So you’ve
done an excellent job. I noticed that we got
a lot of rocks here. What, you must
love carrying rock. – [Bruce] Well, I do love
rocks, I’m a rock hound. I love to look for agates
and different things, but I wanted to incorporate
the rocks for the border. I used to work down at
Munsinger Gardens in St. Cloud at the St. Cloud Park
Department, and they had a lot of rocks down there,
and I’ve always liked rocks, out on the farm, where you have
to pick rocks all the time, and so I checked with a
gravel company here in town, Ferguson’s, and they had a big
rock pile by the bike trail, and I said, “Well, how
much for a load of rock?” and so they told me
what it would cost and I decided I would go
ahead and spend the money and have them
brought in and then I would wheel a pile
over and my wife would sit down and she’d roll
the rocks into place, and so she did most
of the designing, and I just fill in the gaps. I provide the raw
materials, and she did most of the designing, and
I’d fill in the plants. – [Larry] Well, what a
beautiful view you have from, is that your living
room I assume there and you can look out on
the garden and the beautiful Coneflowers
and now the Hostas. This is very picturesque. – [Bruce] It’s been
a lot of fun, Larry. It has been a joy. We keep adding different things. I’ve added three different
types of Bleeding Hearts. No, there’s actually
four different types
of Bleeding Hearts and they do really
well in the shade. Then I’ve been also
introducing ferns. I’ve got, I think, five or six
different varieties of ferns which do really
well in the shade. So you can add a
little different things
into a shade garden that bring color to it at
different times of the year and they grow so well,
and I figure, well gosh, why not put stuff in
there that will do well? – [Larry] You
talked about compost and you maintain a compost pile. Can we go take a look at that? – [Bruce] We can. (upbeat piano music) – I have a question. I’d like to plant
some low-maintenance shrub roses in my yard. Do you have any suggestions? – Well, I’ve got three
great candidates. New roses from the
University of Minnesota, with these great Minnesota
names, Sven, Lena, and Ole. These roses were
selected especially to be grown in Minnesota,
they’re winter hardy. A lot of people shy
away from roses because they don’t want to do the
rose cone or the burying or the mulching or all
those different things, but these three roses will
make it through the winter and they bloom repeatedly
during the summer, so they’re, that’s how they vary from
the old-fashioned roses, that some people, when they
hear the name shrub rose, they think of the old-fashioned
roses that are beautiful but only usually bloom in June. These new roses, Sven and
Ole and Lena, bloom in waves, all of starting in June, all
the way through the summer, and here we are in late
September and still have a real nice
flowers on these roses. In addition to that, they’re
very disease-resistant. They don’t require any
pesticide applications for fungus diseases. The number one problem on
roses is black-spot fungus, and these roses are
immune to that disease. They may have an occasional
aphids or something on them, but you can usually deal
with those sometimes just by spraying them hard with a hard
spray from your garden hose or just letting
natural predators and
stuff deal with them. We have had very few other, any insect or disease
problems on these roses. – [Voiceover] Ask
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through the appreciation and knowledge of plants. – Well, Larry, this is
my active compost pile and what I’ve kind of
done is I’ve put a layer of Sphagnum peat moss
over the top of it to kind of just seal it in
a little bit and to help bring down the alkalinity
of the compost pile. Usually when you’re
composting stuff, it has a high alkalinity
and you want to bring that down a little bit. The other use of the
Sphagnum peat moss over the top of the pile, that
it helps to trap the odors and it basically kind of absorbs
some of the ammonia odors from the decomposition
of plant material. Anyway, I have a
thermometer here. I usually keep track of
the temperature of my pile with a compost
thermometers, it’s usually, it’s an 18-inch thermometer,
you can buy it online. You want to keep
your compost pile about 130 to 150 degrees, a hundred and thirty to a
hundred and fifty degrees, for active composition,
decomposition anyway. – [Larry] Mm-hmm. Well, what’s in this pile? – [Bruce] Well, everything
from my garden ends up back over here into this
pile, and it’s rather small right now considering how
big it was earlier this year, but all the leaves from the
oak trees and the maples and the ash, all that gets in
here, all the Hosta leaves, all the debris in the garden
ends up back into the pile and then I add a little
something special in there to kind of
help kick it off. – [Larry] Special? – [Bruce] Yeah.
– [Larry] Secret ingredient. – [Bruce] My secret
ingredient is the famous Lake Agnes Carp. – [Larry] Aha. – [Bruce] I mean it’s no secret. People have been doing it for hundreds and thousands
of years I bet you, and what I’ve done is I usually
will pull apart the pile. I have a lot of wood chips in
there because I add wood chips always to my garden, and
every spring I pull out a lot of wood chips and
there’s extra wood chips, so the wood chips actually
act as an absorber, it helps to absorb things. It also keeps it from getting
compact because normally compost piles will get really
compact, and you need to have that air in there so
it’s an active pile. It becomes an aerobic
pile rather than anaerobic and you want to have the air
circulation into the pile and you keep it from
getting compact, so I have the wood chips down
there and then I have the, all the other stuff inside
there and the pile is usually about four feet tall
and about four feet wide and my pile is about what, 10
feet long, 10 to 12 feet long? – [Larry] Mm-hmm. – [Bruce] I’ll usually take
the top half of that pile off and then I’ll put my fish
in there and then I’ll cover it back up with
about 18 inches of material and that works pretty good. Would you like to see me
– [Larry] Yeah. put a fish in there?
– [Larry] Let’s, let’s open this up a little
bit and see what’s there. I’ll hold that
thermometer for you. – [Bruce] Okay. – [Larry] Oh, look at
the steam is coming out. – [Bruce] Yeah, it’s a, the temperature
on the pile today is roughly right
around 140 degrees. – [Larry] Well, how long does
it take for a fish to decompose? – [Bruce] Depending upon
the size of the fish, between seven and ten days. The larger the fish,
the longer it takes. The smaller the fish,
the quicker they go. – [Larry] The bones may
take a little longer? – [Bruce] Actually, the bones, everything’s usually
completely gone. There’s usually nothing
left of that fish within, like I said, seven to ten days. I put a couple of carp in
here last week sometime, so I don’t think they’re
fully decomposed yet. – [Larry] Well, the
secret is, here is, maybe catching carp. – [Bruce] Yes, there’s a
secret to that as well. I’ve been using
Sara Lee pound cake. – [Larry] I see. – [Bruce] So I will, I’ll
generally pull the pile apart as much as possible. – [Larry] Yep! – [Bruce] I caught a
couple fish last night, so I’ll take a carp. I’ll lay it in there. I have two of them. – [Larry] That was
a good size carp. – [Bruce] Mm-hmm. – [Larry] Wow. – [Bruce] Then I’ll just,
I won’t pack it down. I’ll just lay it in
there really nice like, and I’ll cover
them back up again. – [Larry] Uh-huh. – [Bruce] As you
notice there’s a lot of wood material in
here, wood chips, hardly any grass material, a
lot of leaf material in there, and some sawdust. I’ll just bury that back up
with my fancy pitchfork here. The nice thing about an
active compost pile, Larry, is once we have that heat
up to 130 and 140 degrees, no skunks like to go in there, no raccoons like to go in there, it keeps the dogs out of there. It’s just too hot for them to
even think about eating that. They may go in there
once, they might kind of dig in there a little bit
and once they hit that heat, they leave it and
they never come back. – [Larry] Really? – [Bruce] Yes.
– [Larry] Wow. – Cause the way I heard
about people who in the past have put some meat in
there and, of course, they tear the pile apart, but
obviously they didn’t have the compost pile
working like you do. – [Bruce] Right. The trick is it has
to be an active pile. You have to have the
heat in your pile. If you don’t have the heat
in the pile, it’s not gonna deter the raccoons or
the skunks or the dogs. – [Larry] Well, then the
odor coming off of that is very pleasant,
very earthy smelling. – [Bruce] Mm-hmm. – [Larry] There’s
no stink to it that – [Bruce] No.
– [Larry] so many people would associate with
something like this. – What I’ll do, Larry,
once this has all been taken care of in the Spring, and I check the
temperature to make sure the temperature is
ambient temperature, or basically room
temperature temperature, it’s the temperature of
the surrounding areas. I’ll bring it into my yard and
I’ll run it through a sifter, and I’ll sift out any
of the big material and what I’ll end
up with in the end is something really,
really nice and fine. This is actually incorporated
into the soil with the plant. – [Larry] Okay. – [Bruce] So this
is my fertilizer. This is my organic fertilizer. I don’t use any
synthetic fertilizer. I just use organic fertilizer that I basically compost myself. – [Larry] Then you turn
this pile periodically? – [Bruce] I do, I do,
I’ve turned it, this is, I’ve turned it twice
this year already. I’ve been recently
studying up on that and I’m finding
out that you don’t actually have to turn this pile. – [Larry] As long as there’s
some air moving through it? – Right, you can insert a tube, like a six-inch
diameter plastic tube and put some holes
in the top of them and it’s called
passive aeration, and that’s supposed
to work excellent. I haven’t tried it yet, I want
to try it but I’m learning. – [Larry] Yes.
– [Bruce] I’m learning. – [Larry] Well,
very good, Bruce. I want to thank you for
sharing your public, your private garden
to the public and also telling us about your
secrets to good composting. – [Bruce] Well,
you’re welcome, Larry. It’s a good use of the carp that are kind of
polluting our lake, and it’s a win-win situation
all the way around. – [Voiceover] Closed
captioning is provided by Mark and Margaret Yackel-Juleen in honor of Shalom Hill Farm, a non-profit rural education
retreat center in a beautiful prairie setting near Windom
in southwestern Minnesota. Shalom Hill Farm, shalomhill.org (upbeat piano music)