To Prune or NOT to Prune Tomato Plants?

To prune or not to prune tomato plants? That is the question. G’day! I’m mark from
Self Sufficient Me, and in this video I’m going to explain to you guys
why I prune my tomato plants and why I don’t prune my tomato plants. Let’s get into it! There are several things markers, timings, instances that I look for whenever I’m thinking of pruning
or not to prune my tomato plants and the first one is the type of tomato plant. Basically there are two types of tomato plants: An Indeterminate tomato which grows up and keeps growing like a vine and you can see how this
one is about a metre long now and it’s starting to be trained along the top of
this trellis, for the fruit to grow and hang down. And this will keep producing leaders that will
lead out from the middle of the branches and just keep going and growing
and keep expanding if you let it. And then there’s the other type of tomato
plant, and that’s the Determinate type which is this type, and they grow like a bush. Bushy, maybe no more than perhaps a metre tall. Let’s start with the indeterminate type of plant. These are mostly indeterminates that
are growing on this side of our trellis. And you can see that I’ve really stripped
the bottom two feet on most of these plants completely away, there’s
hardly any foliage at all and you can just see trusses of tomatoes sticking out here like shags on a rock basically because there is nothing there to hide them. And in general, I will prune
indeterminate type plants as a rule because they do tend to get out of control
if you don’t control the growth of the plant. On this side, these are all
determinate type tomato plants and as a general rule, I don’t
prune these much at all because if you think about it, they
have a limited height anyway and the more you prune off them, the more
you’re just going to retard the growth. If they’re only going to get to about a metre
high, you don’t want to take off more limbs because that means you’ll be producing less fruit and that’s not the purpose of growing a tomato plant
is it? It’s to get as much fruit as possible on that plant. So these yes, they usually
do need staking and support especially when they start
getting laden with fruit but generally, you don’t prune them back. The second thing that influences me
about when I prune and when I don’t is are we growing anything
underneath the tomato crop such as these beetroot here, or salads, or herbs? Because if you are well then you want to shed light on
those plants as much as possible. And if you don’t, well then they’re
not going to grow too well. But to maximise space, I like to grow
some smaller plants like salad crops or even beetroot, because they do okay
in the shade, underneath tomatoes. Sometimes even pees or beans
because they can complement tomatoes and even fix or add nitrogen to the soil,
and help the tomato plants grow as well. The third thing I think about
when considering to prune or not is diseased leaves or branches,
or even just lower branches because lower branches
inevitably become diseased first because they have the most exposure
to the soil where the fungus hides. As a general rule, determinate or indeterminate all tomato plants, I will trim them at
least several inches up from the base so that these lower branches
don’t touch the ground. And you can see here a great example of these lower branches starting to
become diseased, and these leaves and the other leaves up
the top here, disease free. So what I’ll do now is I’ll give you a quick example of
how I do just simply trim the base around these plants to limit that disease spreading. Ew, I just noticed a tomato.. So this is a pest that’s
got into here, a grub and so I’ve pruned those tomatoes off. That grub is
probably inside, and there’s one on the outside here. That would grow into another one and that’ll just eat more, ruin
more tomatoes one by one so even pruning the odd tomato that doesn’t
look right, or has a hole in it, will help as well. That’ll get eaten by ants or birds now. There we go, that’s much better. All cleaned up, aerated in the middle here leaves, branches off the ground and I got rid of any leaves or branches that I
saw with even a slightest sign of leaf disease. And that should stay that disease for longer. It won’t stop tomatoes getting
overpowered eventually by disease but it will slow it down considerably. And this is a good example to lead me
onto the next point of pruning or not pruning. You can see this is an indeterminate variety it’s growing large and it’s creeping out,
and I’m holding it up with twine here and there tying it to this structure but I’m not training it to just
one stem, I’ve let it grow wild. And the reason for that is,
it’s the only tomato there. I’m letting it branch out a bit
more to get some more fruit and let it have a bit of free reign, why not? Tomato plants are designed
to do that, just sprawl out. I’ll just show you the contrast.
Back over at the trellis there you can see that I’m pruning them
quite savagely at the base and also chopping the branches off them to stop them sprawling out over each other. Check out these two growing side by side. These are both indeterminate, they’re Money makers so they’ll grow to a medium-large size tomato and you can see they’re quite close. They’re within around about 8 inches apart. Normally you plant tomatoes maybe
40cm apart, that’s the ‘standard grain’ but y’know, I hardly ever go standard. I like to squish in my plants but there is a compromise I make, and that is I don’t want these bushing together, otherwise too much
humidity, too much moisture, not enough aeration. If it was a one plant here like over there I would just let it branch out more,
perhaps have four or five branches but because they’re growing so close
together, I’ve trimmed them back. And you might say well why don’t
you just put one plant there then? Well, that’s a good question. For the larger varieties in particular,
when you grow them off one main stem that might branch out to two leaders, or three max you get the best results out of tomatoes,
and strengthen the plant rather than trying to grow one tomato plant and spreading that over a larger area with several different leaders coming off it. This works okay for small tomato varieties,
and I’ll show you that in a minute but it doesn’t work too good
for the larger varieties. Another theory behind it
is that when you do that the tomatoes, if they’re the larger
varieties, will grow a bit bigger rather than having a big bushy plant
with lots of trusses and smaller tomatoes. And the last thing I’ll talk about pruning
or not to prune are the exceptions. Check out this magnificent specimen here. This is a Rootstock tomato. The tomatoes are very small,
cherry-like tomatoes. They are part of the very
first original tomato plants that ruled the world probably
way before humans and what a lot of modern day
tomatoes are derived from. This will grow vigorous,
and in situations and soils that other tomato plants
or varieties like the larger ones can’t sustain or won’t grow as well in. I just like to grow them as a tough tomato plant that is an insurance against crop failure or just to have some
beautiful cherry tomatoes to eat. If you look through here, you’ll see where
the tomatoes are ripening on the inside. Just beautiful. See, a tomato plant like this
doesn’t like getting pruned too much and if you do prune it too much, you’re
not going to get much growth out of it. This type of tomato plant loves
growing bushy, and I would leave it. Even if you do see some disease at the
base start, oh you can cut that off I suppose but at the end of the day, I wouldn’t be
trying to train it into one or two leaders because you’re going to be limiting the fruit and with this type of berry tomato it really does like to set
the fruit in the inner foliage and protect it, because
they’re only a small tomato If it gets too much sun on them, they can burn and the fruit shrivels quite quickly so that’s why I like to leave quite a bit of
foliage on these types of tomatoes regardless and just let them bush out and take over areas because you’re going to
get the best results out of it. So that’s the exception. So I hope that answers any questions on when to prune, or when
not to prune tomato plants. If it didn’t, whack a question
down in the comment section and I’ll hopefully be able to
get to it and answer it for you other people might as well.
If you’re a beginner gardener a lot of advanced gardeners do watch my videos and they are a wealth of knowledge
also down in the comment section so even those guys might be able
to answer the question for you. I hope you enjoyed this video. If you did,
make sure you give it a big thumbs up and subscribe to the channel
if you haven’t already. Go on, hit that subscribe button! Thanks a lot for watching. Bye for now! I recommend you grow these fellas. Tell you what, they are beautiful and they do make a good tomato sauce too. Yes, you need a whole lot.
Thanks for the great information I grow cherry tomatoes all winter and did not know about the 'not pruning' method so will give it a go this year love your videos I live on mid north coast
Dude you're the only aussie bro I can listen to. I can't stand the accent of like crocodile hunter or crocodile dundee. Have a good day. BTW what season is it there now.
Wow so cool
Love your gardens
Hey Mark .i love wt u doin with your garden, keep on going π
Have u ever considered selling seeds of your own crops ?
I would love to have some of those tomatoes and some of the other stuff
as well.
those little buggers are my faves too
Hi Mark. Are you yet on BitChute or LBRY?
Hi Mark, love yea videos cobber. What do you recommend growing tomatoes on? Stakes or cages?
Thank you for your detailed reasoning about large vs small tomato's and pruning. In the future I'll change my tomato placement. It's much harder to support the large fruit with multiple vines. Last year I let a cherry go crazy and it wasn't hard to support at all. Seems like common sense now but I didn't think about it like that!
Great info, much thanks for sharing!πβ¨
Awesome video man.
This is my favorite new channel. You're approaching this scientifically for the benefit of the rest of us gardeners. As a first-time π plant grower (on my apartment balcony), I greatly appreciate your efforts. Subscribed!
I don't always prune my tomatoes, but when I do, I have a dubstep kick it off. Another great vid!
Could you do a video or series on preserving foods? Maybe you like certian vegies that you can only grow certian times a year, but you want it year round.
I have a question. Can you please make youtube allow more than 1 like per video because everytime i watch your videos i always find myself reaching for the like button when i already hit it and have already tried to hit it again π
I wish I watched this earlier, only discovered you a few weeks ago, but I've pruned my tiny currant tomato bush and it is struggling with growth, but also disease. Fighting a losing battle with this one I'm afraid, but now I know.
Great video. I just have to say: at 3:52 you are a Ricky Gervais lookalike. Or am i the only one to think that? π
U should grow bamboo, it's nice to use in the garden instead of plastic tubes. Love your channel mate i learned so much thanks.
Thanks bunches, we just love watching! Can you tell me what program do you use to edit your videos? β€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈ
2 varieties I would recommend growing… The Italian costoluto florentino and the French rouge de marmande. These are giant, pumpkin looking monsters that have huge yield and the taste is one of the most amazing you'll find. Quantity and quality! Can't say fairer than that.
Excellent. I like how easy it is to watch. You speak slowly and clearly and address concerns quickly. Subbed
Great video Mark. Do you have tips on planting, what to feed tomatoes and how often?
Are Early Girl tomatoes determinant or indeterminant? I'm not sure what tomatoes are determinant and indeterminant! Thanks
How do you tell you've got determinate or indeterminate to tomato plants? Utter amateur growing my first crop of tomatoes. Some bought, some grown from seed.
Do you eat kale, lettuce etc that bugs have chewed on?!
Thanks for demystifying pruning. I've had rainy seasons when I've ended up with giant green shrubbery and droughts where I've ended up with sticks loaded with tomatoes. I grow various plums, the odd cherry or grape and mid-sized tomatoes like subarctic here in Newfoundland's short and extremely variable growing season. With the wind here, I don't think I've ever had a problem with pollination π
By "rootstock" tomatoes, do you mean heritage varieties? (When I google that, it leads to grafting.)
well done Sir. please i'm interested in your videos on Self Sufficient Me. how can i get the original seed of cherry tomatoes. God bless you.
Those look just like Everglades tomatoes. No pruning those, they are best let to run free π love your videos!
Hi mark, I have a tamarillo, which has given me a good crop this year, itβs second year. Should I prune it? And how?
Look forward to your response. Neil G
Been watching your channel for a while now. You are very thorough with everything. Thank you.
I am a self proclaimed survivalist, as is my family, and find this channel to be invaluable. I appreciate the concise, informative material you present. I have already begun sharing your videos to my survivalist and prepper brothers and sisters. This Yankee cannot express his gratitude enough, sir, Thank you!!!
You shall now be known as Russell Grow.
hi iam tim. and just to know what make tomato plant facing south and it goes facing east what made it do that.
Another fantastic episode!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us. I know I appreciate your advice very much.
MIke, good day mate. Have you ever experimented with spraying aspirin on the tomato plant to hack the plant into producing much better fruit. thanks.
Should I prune my dwarf calamondin tree while we are in the middle of winter? I'd like it to bear more fruit than last year which wasn't a lot π
Thank you for posting! Your videos have been very helpful as I start my square foot gardening!
Thanks for the video, I got some pruning to do tomorrow. We had some heavy rain and now I see some fungus spots on my lower leaves.
I'm growing cherry tomatoes what type are they…?
If it's a climate above 85Β°F and high humidity you definitely want to prune out to get airflow around the plant regardless of what kind of plant they are. This is how you control disease and production.
Love the cherries. Most of what I grow are cherries, tomato wise. The darker like chocolate and black cherry and yellow cherries seem to be the most hardy. Here in Texas it gets hot and the humidity high. I've found the chocolate sprinkle and husky cherry variety being very hardy. They taste better than anything around the tomato kingdom… Then I like the larger heirloom plants, especially the off color varieties. If you feed a tomato plant with a nice diet that includes a good fish emulsion you'll never be disappointed.
Good info as always.
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What kind of soil do You use in Your containers..??
I have a Sungold (small tomatoes but Indeterminate) It has completely exploded into a massive bush and taken over one of my garden boxes. Would that be one of the exceptions that you talk about at the end?
Pruning seedlings at planting helps reduce transplant shock.
You have the best and most informative videos! I canβt thank you enough for all the wonderful information you provide, it has helped me out on numerous occasions. Please keep the videos coming, they are truly appreciated!
Growing Roma tomatoes (determinate) in containers I have learned that pruning is necessary to ensure bountiful harvest.
Even though the height is determinate the plant continues to send out shoots, and if you don't manage (prune) the shoots to keep them in check your yield will suffer greatly. You'll have more individual fruits, but much smaller in size – like cherry tomatoes. Each shoot on a Roma is good for 5 – 8 fruits from my experience.
Love your videos keep up the great work!
Tomato tomato
How do you know wether they are determinate or inderterminate
Do lower leaves help keep the base/roots cool, especially in potted tomatoes?
Great info, but can't listen, you're pretty annoying
The simplicity of life, language, and habits empowers nation, but luxurious lifestyle, pretentious language and effeminate habits lead to weakness and death. John Ruskin Tolstoy Thoughts of wise people for every day
Cherry tomatoes are sour….. But they don't need special care… I remember when my grandmother used to jhum… She would just throw the tomotoes around and you will see a bunch of bushes of them after sometime… great if you make a paste of it with chillies
love the epic music while pruning π
The thing about not pruning the cherry tomato, that's makes the tomatoes very small as shown here,
I just pruned mine because I have the same "problem", hoping they'll grow bigger.
Is this all for personal use or is this a market strategy proven true? Love the vids…just wondering
My replika sent me here thinking this was a song???? For some reason??? But hey now I know about pruning tomato plants so- Iβm happy either way
Thanks for the great advice
"when tomatoes ruled the world"
imagines tomatoes ruling the world
General Tomato
Sergeant tomato
Bond, Tomato Bond
Biggie Tomatoes
2 tomatoes
Snoopp tomato
Spongebob squared tomatoes
Tommie Lee Tomatoes
Samuel L. Tomato
Lil' Tomato
Quentin Tomatino
Major Tomato
Lieutenant Tomato
Mario Party Tomato
Super Smash Tomato
Conker's bad Tomato Day
Salvador Tomato
Pablo Tomato
Leonardo DaTomato
Do you sell produce at all?
Seems like a ton of food to grow just for you and the partner.
Hi Mark. Is it true that possums won't eat your tomato plants and fruit? Also do you have a video on how you made that garden bed where you got your determinants and interminate tomatoes growing in? Thanks
I was given mini cherry tomato seeds. No label if it's indeterminate or determinate. How am i to know? Please advise. Thank you
Good information, thank you.
Very helpful.
Thanks for the video! I'm a beginner gardener who's planning on growing tomatoes next year. I was just wondering what type of rootstock tomato you're growing?
I noticed those long runs of corrugated iron are bulging, mine beds are 3.2m long and half way along I hammer a steel star picket next to the walls (on the inside) then using metal thread screws screw the walls to the star picket. Lastly grab some scrap fencing wire and tie the two pickets across the bed to each other. Voila, no more bulging walls. Obviously to me done during construction of the beds. Excellent episode on determinate and indeterminate tomatoes and their needs.
How do you stop the birds eating the lot?
Great show. Wonderful tips.
Hi from Canada. Love your videos Mark. Iβd be interested in seeing how your trellis is set up.
Great video thank you
Thank you for the insight. This is something I have been wondering about.
I watered my 2 year old lemon tree (that I grew from seed) with dish water and now I have a tomato plant growing in it. Can I replant my lemon tree without killing it??
I think I planted a few indeterminate tomatoes too close to each other. The leaves are now just tightly stacked and crissed crossed into one another while I tried pruning but they still growing and lots of tomatoes and still producing lots of flowers but the inside lower part have gone completely shut there is no sun going there or maybe no air. Will I harm It if I start to do a more drastic pruning?
I like to grow basil around my tomatoes. Do you know much about companion planting? To be honest I don't but I do know basil grows well around tomatoes.
Hello, I have a cherry tomato plant that is growing insanely big. I actually planted a few plants to close together and the cherry plant is growing so big the stalks are falling on each other. Any advice? Also I'm not sure of the term but someone told me I can cut a stalk or something to replant somewhere else and it'll grow into another plant, is there a term for this so I can learn more?
How to keep birds and squirrels out of tomatoes???
I have one of the exception tomato plants you mentioned. I've let it grow but…its taking over too much including a heater and hose. It grows at a rapid rate and it's been growing out of a gap in the bricks. I think I need to move it, do you have any tips?
i've been growing bush tomato hybrids for several years now, and i will never go back. Quite literally set them, and forget them. One 20 inch diameter, hog wire tube cage each is all the support they need. prolific fruit production with zero maintenance, staking, training, pruning.
A lot of how to grow tomatoes depends on your location.
In the Midwestern usa we plant, wait, then pick. It's easy. Go south however and it's not easy anymore.
What were the little tomatoes at the end called?
What do the berry tomatoes taste like?
I didn't prune some tomato plants and they did just as well as the ones I pruned BUT they got too heavy and fell over taking a stake and tomato cage with it. also makes it harder to harvest tomatoes. sometimes you miss tomatoes under all that foliage and when you find them they are rotten. we have to pick ours before they are completely ripe or they will rot.
When do you stop pruning the indeterminate plant?
Hi, there. Hydrogen peroxide 3% solution 6% solution or 9% solution I used 9 percent why because it helps the roots with oxygen and the take up the vitamins and minerals they take up from the soil. A shot glass full of hydrogen peroxide then mix with in a gallon of water or 6 -ish litres. What this does is provide your plants with oxygen in which it needs the science bit is hydrogen turns to water and the peroxide provide's the rest with the take up of nutrients. Only thing is don't get it on the plant just the soil around the plant's. Once every eight to ten days or miss out one watering hydrogen peroxide mix and add instead seaweed liquid feed or a tomato liquid feed and use some cotton buds to fertilize the male and the female flower stamens that way you can do one Bush earlier and one Bush later. The thing is unless your selling them, you don't want to many fruits at one time or a glut of several varieties unless you want to preserve them. One last thing be careful with this hydrogen peroxide it's very harmful. What I do is make up a solution in a 2 pint or a 1.136 litre screw type bottle with a half a litre or 580ml of water or 1pint. Then I put half a shot glass of hydrogen peroxide in to the bottle and use it over the next four/five times every eight -ish to ten days over 4 months period and mix in with one gallon of water or 6 litres, do not put extra in, it will not harm the plants a little go's a long way. Good gardening and keep your hands off the dead fly's, because tomatoes they kill by the little hairs on the stems on the plants and in the wild they kill fly's for extra nutrients. If you didn't know tomatoes come from the nightshade family and the carnivorous plant group as well, they are distant cousins of The Venus Fly Trap and the Pitcher plants as well as other poisonous varieties also. Linked distantly to the potato that's why if you leave potatoes in the ground they could grow up looking like tomato plants but still potato plants with browny black looking tomatoes on them destroy them and use gloves the berry's juice is poisonous. Beware these are very bad for you, they are poisonous as well. So small children and old people should kept away from them and those in between.
Have you hear of tomato plant βwiltβ I donβt have it but my mom and dad and my friends mom and dad all have it. May I ask have you ever heard of anything that helps it?
The last tomato plant (the cherry tomatoes) is something I would like to grow. What is the name of that variety? Watching from the US.
I had these small tomatoes in a pot last year and one seed made it into my garden and grew on its own. It is now one of my biggest tomatoe plants and always good for a little snack π
Question, how do you know if is determinant or indeterminate?
You mentioned fruit flies attack tomatoes. Do they attack cherry tomatoes or are they too small? I have to bag all my fruit and veg (capsicum) as there are a lot of fruit flies.
Champ
does pruning affect the quality/taste/texture of the fruit or does it only affect the quantity?
what a great New Zealander
Thumbnail looks like alex jones π
Thank you buddy !!π€ π Great advice for us you tube people! Love your garden advice video's!! Take care!! Kind regards!! From Ron !! Tasmania Australia!
I picked up a tomato frame from Aldi, omg worse choice ever, currently at 45 degrees lol
For years I followed all the conventional wisdom about pruning suckers and trimming up the leaves near the ground and trellising & all that, and had very satisfactory results. Then this year I had a couple volunteers (one heirloom Yellow Pear cherry type, one full-size German Queen heirloom, both indeterminate)) come up near my compost pile and for an experiment I just let them go wild and spread out right on the ground… They both did every bit as well as the ones I put a ton of work into, with no effort at all, just watering them when it got really dry. They had no pest problems, diseases, fungus, mildew or anything like that. Plus they suppressed almost all the weeds in their area simply by covering the ground. So if the soil is good and you have insects under control with companion plants, I'm more or less convinced that pruning or not just depends mainly on how much space you want each plant to take up. YMMV.
Why can't I dug up one of those in the crack of the sidewalk and planted it in a bucket one little bitty tomato plant that sucker is 3ft by 3ft and has given me more cherry tomatoes and I have ever seen oh and by the way you can stick a leaf in the ground and it will grow thanks my friend
Hi there,
I was wondering if you have the tomato blueberry variety? Would love more info on that one
good videos, this one give me so much information. tks SSM